Unable to install Windows
After some research and comparison shopping, I decided to buy the following components to replace my defective motherboard:
- Athlon64 3000+ CPU, Winchester core with 90nm process. These run significantly cooler than their older 0.13Micron siblings and have better overclocking potential.
- Asus A8V Deluxe motherboard. This VIA K8T800Pro based board has a Socket 939 that supports the latest Winchester core Athlons and hopefully will be supported for a while. More importantly for me, the board has 3 regular (Parallel ATA) IDE connectors in addition to the 4 SATA connectors. Most motherboards these days seem to be moving towards SATA, which is certainly a good thing, but as I still have quite a few Parallel ATA devices (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/W, and 4 hard drives), I need at least 3 PATA connectors. Of course, I could always buy a separate controller PCI card, but I prefer this simpler solution. The A8V Deluxe has been getting good reviews, so I should be fine.
- 2 Corsair 512MB PC3200 DIMMs. I went with their value line, which may not yield the same performance as some of the higher quality memory, but nonetheless it is officially supported by my motherboard and supports dual channel.
For the most part, I am very happy with this combination, although I still have some serious problems. Read below for more…
My initial start after putting everything back together was somewhat rocky. First, the computer didn’t POST and all I got was a black screen. I then remembered reading somewhere that the A8V requires BIOS v.1007 in order to support Winchester core CPUs. Since I had ordered the CPU and motherboard as a combo from Mwave, I assumed that they would ensure to ship a motherboard with an appropriate BIOS, but this was not the case. After some initial frustration, I found a helpful post somewhere that suggested to start the system with a single DIMM in slot 3. And voila, with this configuration the system was able to boot into the BIOS. After downloading the latest official BIOS (v.1008) and flashing it using the A8V’s convenient EZ Flash procedure, my CPU was now properly supported and I was able to put in the second DIMM.
So far so good. I still wasn’t able to boot into Windows. I had previously set up a dual boot Windows / Linux configuration using the Grub bootloader, which for some reason wasn’t happy now. I now had to hunt for some DOS boot disks with the appropriate tools (e.g. Fdisk) on them, but wasn’t successful. Luckily, two downloadable CD-ROM bootdisks came to the rescue. Both contain a variety of rescue and system diagnostics tools, and using them I was easily able to fix my MBR to remove Grub.
Ultimate Boot CD: This is my favorite of these two CDs. It contains a wealth of tools, as well as a complete, Knoppix-based Linux distribution. You simply download the ISO, burn it on CD, and boot from it.
911 Rescue CD: Another great tool. Instead of an ISO image, you need to download a CD builder that you run on your computer in order to generate a rescue CD image. I believe (although I haven’t really looked much into this aspect) that it is able to incorporate a Windows installer into the rescue CD, which is probably the main reason why the CD cannot simply be downloaded in form of an ISO image. It does not contain a Linux distribution, though.
I had anticipated having to reinstall Windows after replacing the motherboard, but surprisingly it was able to recognize the new components and ran happily after updating or installing the corresponding drivers. Maybe the fact that my previous system also used an Athlon CPU and a VIA chipset helped.
Now for the remaining problem that I’ve been unable to fix so far: I am unable to boot from any Windows XP installation CD. This may not be an immediate issue, as my existing installation is luckily working just fine, but of course I need to be able to reinstall Windows if I have to.
I get to the point where I have to press a button the boot the CD, and I also get the following message: “Setup is inspecting your computer’s hardware configuration”. After this, the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I have even left the computer in this state for a whole night, without a change.
I have tried everything I could think of: Booting from my DVD-R/W instead of my DVD-ROM, removing one of my two DIMMs, disconnecting all hard drives, replacing my USB keyboard and mouse with PS2 components, etc. I have also tried virtually all permutations of BIOS settings (RAM timings and voltage, AGP settings, CPU and AGP voltage, ACPI, etc.). In addition, I downloaded and flashed the latest beta BIOS (v.1009.3).
This seems to affect all Windows XP boot CDs, including the vanilla XP version, SP1, and SP2. All other CDs boot fine, including Knoppix or the Fedora Linux installation DVD.
Many forums on the Internet mention RAM problems as the most likely cause of these types of problems. But I have tried different RAM, without success. I have also run Memtest86+ for about an hour, without encountering any errors, so it is unlikely that the RAM is to blame.
I suppose a bad power supply could potentially be causing problems as well, and while I have a 500W supply, it is a generic and probably low quality brand. I have actually ordered a new PC case as well as a new power supply, and I will test this as soon as it arrives on Monday.
And of course, I could just have a defective motherboard. However, the fact that it otherwise works fine (even games play fine, and I’ve had the computer running for several days at a time without issues) leads me to believe that the issue lies elsewhere. Still, I might have to try to RMA it if I can’t find any other causes.
If you have any suggestions, please leave a comment.
December 22nd, 2004 at 10:05 am
Had the same problem, was migrating from a redhat (fedora) install to XP. booted into linux, formatted the drive to NTFS, and restarted with XP CD in, and it went right into setup.
Try formatting the drive first.
December 22nd, 2004 at 9:01 pm
Thanks for the hint, that certainly sounds like it’s worth a try. The annoying thing is that my system is actually running fine right now, and I don’t feel like reinstalling Windows just for the heck of it. I just want to make sure that I’ll be able to install it when the time comes…
Well, I think I’ll just leave my system like it is for now and hope that reformatting the drive will resolve this issue in the future. The only thing that I’m worried about is that that may mean that I won’t be able to return the motherboard if it does turn out to be a motherboard issue of some sort.
December 15th, 2005 at 5:09 pm
Hi!
I’m having the same problem, and the formatting didn’t do the trick…
The setup only seems to load when the IDE drive isn’t connected. I also have two SATA disks, and the installation CD doesn’t recognise either, even if I use the drivers provided in the motherboard CD (but at least it gets to the point where it says “you don’t have a HD”).
I’ve tried several Linux distributions and they all work perfect. Any ideas?
In case it helps, I have:
Athlon 64 3800+ dual core
Asus A8N-E
2×512Mb DDR400 Kingstom
ATI X800 XL
2x 120Gb Maxtor SATA HD
December 18th, 2005 at 10:24 pm
Hi Neuroine,
I actually haven’t tried to install Windows since I posted this entry a year ago. For the past year, I’ve mainly been running Linux on my desktop. I’ve kept my existing Windows installation as a dual boot option that I’m using less and less these days. Chances are I won’t even replace it if it ends up dying alltogether at some point…
I definitely wonder if our problem is caused by having a combination of IDE and SATA drives on an Asus motherboard, as we both have this in common.
January 6th, 2006 at 1:46 am
Hi Guys…i have the same prob too….looks like linux is the culprit….i dont have sata…so that can be ruled out…..my os works fine….after showing up that the setup is inspecting hardware the screen goes blank… iam running fedora core 4 and xp sp2 dual boot….i am gonna try different stuff u guys can mail me to finf out how i fixed it …ie if iam able to fix it. darshan_sebastian@yahoo.com
January 8th, 2006 at 9:26 am
I have the same problem about “setup insinspecting…..”.
visit this site for solution:
http://ce.aut.ac.ir/~naderan/WinXP.htm
January 8th, 2006 at 9:52 am
Thanks stig80, that sounds very promising. If I ever need to reinstall Windows on my box and it still hangs, I’ll give this a shot.
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